The European Commission and the state owned railway companies are getting very excited about the idea there could be a EU masterplan for high speed rail.

With that in mind, let’s do a little thought experiment. This started as a Bluesky thread, and has been lightly edited into this blog entry.

Let’s assume that – short term – the best bet is to run more trains on existing high speed infrastructure, rather than building new high speed lines.

So imagine right now you have a fleet of 4 voltage, all signalling systems you want, 200m long, approved to run anywhere high speed trains (300km/h speed). Where do you deploy them? And as this is to be an EU plan, let’s focus on cross border routes.

 

I’d start with
Amsterdam ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ – Bruxelles ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช – Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท
Eurostar (ex-Thalys) hasn’t added capacity here for 2 decades. it’s mostly high speed infrastructure. On Bruxelles – Paris there is plenty of capacity, through Antwerp a bit as well. Big cities, big demand, Eurostar costly. A no brainer.

Next would be
Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท / Bruxelles ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช – London ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง
Yes as my #CrossChannelRail project showed, there are operational headaches through the Channel Tunnel, but there is – at least on the core routes – spare capacity too. Extend to Kรถln ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช, Frankfurt ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช, Basel ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ or Zรผrich ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ too if you want.

Then I’d look at
Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
There are between 5x and 7x a day to Frankfurt ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช, and 2 routes (via Saarbrรผcken or via Strasbourg), and Stuttgart ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช and Mรผnchen ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช are under served too. Yes, distances are long, but Frankfurt is time competitive with โœˆ๏ธ

Then it would be
Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Barcelona ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ
Yes, this takes 6.5 hours, but there are only 2x or 3x trains a day, but 6x a day to Perpignan from Paris! Add Bcn to Toulouse ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท, Lyon ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท, Marseille ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท and you could use some trains here

Now it’s getting a bit harder, but
Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Zรผrich ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ
This has more potential than a service every two hours it has currently, not least as the “other” hours there’s a Paris – Mulhouse ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท TGV that gets to within 20km of the border So there’s a little more you can do on this route

Likewise hard, as the infra through Chambรฉry, Modane is slow… but
Paris ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Milano ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น
ought to have more than 4 trains a day each way (2 TGVs, 2 Frecciarossa currently), not least as more stopping in Lyon ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท could make sense.

Then
Zรผrich ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ / Basel ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ or Genรจve ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ – Montpellier ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Barcelona ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ / Madrid ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ
These routes would likely be highly seasonal, so would probably not be top of the list to do. But time wise, especially from Geneva, this would be workable

Next would be
Roma ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น – Verona ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น – Innsbruck ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น – Mรผnchen ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช And Roma ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น – Venezia ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น – Wien ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น (once Koralmbahn open later this year)
Here all the high speed is on the Italian side, and at least Roma – Mรผnchen is in planning. But I think you could squeeze some more out of either of these routes

Perhaps
Zรผrich ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ / Basel ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ – Dijon ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Charles de Gaulle โœˆ๏ธ ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Lille ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท – Bruxelles ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช
At the moment this route needs a complex change across Paris, so eliminating that would make sense. Although there are probably not more than 2x or 3x a day to run here

And then…

What have we got?

There are some high-ish speed lines, like Berlin ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช / Hamburg ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช – Amsterdam ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ, or Hamburg ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช – Berlin ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช – Praha ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ, or Kรธbenhavn ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ – Hamburg ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช that need better services, but you’d not use 300km/h trains on these. Anything Spain ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ – Portugal ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น needs dual gauge trains, so is hard to do just now.

And there are some high speed projects in planning or being built that might in a few years change the picture:
Fehmarn Belt ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ-๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
Praha-Brno ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฟ
Rail Baltica ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ฑ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ช
CPK Project ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ
Lyon-Torino ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น
Basque-Y ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ (implication for ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท)

So then – short term – what matters?

๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

And ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท again

And then ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท some more

If you want to boost high speed passenger rail in Europe, short term, pretty much ALL of the routes you need to sort out start or end in France

 

But

What is the only country in Europe to have reduced the size of its high speed train fleet?

Yes, that’s ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

 

Has removed Spanish signalling from some of its TGVs so they cannot cross the border into Spain?

Yes, that’s ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

 

Hasn’t installed the right version of ETCS on its TGVs to use them on German high speed lines?

Yeah, that’s ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

 

Has been really sluggish installing ETCS on its own high speed lines so as to allow others to run on its own high speed lines?

Yes, that’s ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท (well, and ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช)

 

Has refused to allow Renfe’s Talgo 106 to run on its high speed lines?

Yeah, you guessed it – ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท
(FWIW this one actually might be justified)

 

So basically if the European Commission wants to do something about high speed rail, cross border, in the short term it needs to pick up the phone and speak to Paris.

2 Comments

  1. There used to be a TEE line from Geneva to Barcelona. The first step to get a high speed line from Switzerland to the south-west would be to have a good IC connection between Lyon and Geneva.
    Currently there is only a TER that takes two hours, it takes 1:45 by car, mostly because A40 has a much straighter path.

    Given the importance of both cities, you would think this would be an obvious developmentโ€ฆ

    • Sort of. I know the Swiss are disappointed with how bad that Lyon-Genรจve line is, but as it’s 90% in France and the French government doesn’t want to do anything about it, and the Rรฉgion (AURA) doesn’t care either…

      Well, basically, yes, I agree, but you can explain why it’s poor.

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